Latest Interview!

Dear Rob,

I hope you’re doing fine and everything is great in L.A.

I have some questions from a journalists of ivy online magazine www.ivyworld.de (their motto: “for a better world”). Can you please answer them (or some of them) and send it back to me?

1. How long did it take to produce Sharkwater?
- 5 years and 15 countries.

2. First you wanted to shoot a film just about sharks. That changed why?

When I started out making Sharkwater, it was supposed to be a beautiful underwater movie about sharks, giving people the reality: the anti-jaws that brings people closer to sharks than ever before.
I figured if I could make a film that gave people a new view of sharks, counter to Jaws, then perhaps they’d want to fight for their protection as they would for pandas, elephants and bears.
As you see in the film, everything changed dramatically when we started filming ourselves to keep ourselves out of prison, and the movie evolved into a much larger movie full of corruption, espionage, attempted murder, hospitalizations, mafia and machine guns…
The film grew greatly into a new breed of film, blending a true-life action with a shark film about the survival of humans as a species.

3. Describe the ups and downs of making the film.

The creation of Sharkwater was a series of worst case scenarios. The lowest low was when I was hospitalized for flesh eating disease. The doctors were talking about removing my leg, and we were 3 weeks into shooting a shark film and had no shark footage. Everyone told me I should return home for proper medical care. My girlfriend and parents were upset, my crew was freaking… I had to turn into captain positive to keep people from flying me home… If I went home, the film would have never been finished because it was such a colossal failure that it would have been shelved. The expensive cameras would have been returned to the rental houses, and once freed from the hospital, I wouldn’t have been able to return to South America to film because of the huge financial hole that I was in. This was my one shot at making a difference and my first foray into filmmaking. I couldn’t accept that my effort to make a difference and to get into filmmaking was a failure.
The film also had a huge potential to do good…. To change the way people view sharks so they would fight for their protection, ultimately saving the oceans and humanity from destroying the ecosystems upon which they depend. Knowing this, there was no way I could give up.

Another hugely difficult part of the 5 years and 15 countries that it took to create Sharkwater was convincing people to believe in me, and the project. I started Sharkwater when I was 22 years old. I had no film experience, I’d never shot a video camera, and I had no film allies. I was a total long shot. When I came back from the initial shoot where I tried to make a beautiful underwater shark film, I had no underwater footage, but I had corruption, espionage, mafia chases, machine guns, and hospitalizations. I was also $300,000 in debt. I went to every relevant film festival to pitch the film and gain support to finish Sharkwater. I also had Dengue Fever, West Nile Virus, and Tuberculosis. After a year of this painful process, I was turned down by every broadcaster and distributor. I actually gave up on Sharkwater, and went to shoot a starfish movie for a friend of mine in Australia. Only after I’d been shooting in Australia for a year, having time to heal, reflect and shoot more footage did I realize that I had the missing pieces to Sharkwater. These supposed failures turned Sharkwater into something much greater than it would have been if I succeeded in getting the film on TV a year earlier.

4. Have your life been in danger while shooting the film? Why?

A half dozen times. We were shot at, chased by the mafia, I almost lost my leg to flesh eating disease, I had dengue fever, west Nile virus, and tuberculosis all at the same time. I was also lost, floating in the Pacific ocean for half a day when I surfaced from a dive 2 kilometers from my boat.

Everything going catastrophically wrong during shooting turned out to be a beautiful thing, as all the events became part of the movie. They gave Sharkwater what documentaries so often lack – a story, and a personal narrative. Doc’s often feel like taking medicine… you know you’re in for an ordeal that’s not necessarily pleasant… Its easier for people to come onto the crazy journey of the long shot – the 22 year old kid who’s trying to make a shark film – and come out the other side armed with the info necessary for the world to change.

5. Describe your relationship with Paul Watson.

Paul has become a close friend and ally. There aren’t many people working for the preservation of the oceans, particularly ones that put their life on the line for it. Paul is a hero, and I’m sure we’ll continue to work together.

6. What kind of person is he?

Paul is an eco hero. He’s the most outspoken and radical warrior in the most important battle humans have ever faced. He moves forward unshakably, and will be thought of as a revolutionary for centuries.

7. Your main message is that sharks are shy creatures. How is it that other documentaries capture such savage footage of them?

Every time you see a shark cage on TV, there is someone outside of the cage filming the cage. Shark documentaries mostly misrepresent sharks, making audiences think that they attack every camera, boat and cage in the water. People drag large pieces of fish or bait through the water, just in front of the shark, getting the shark to bite at the bait, eventually bringing the shark close to the camera to get dramatic footage. This is the standard for shark documentaries, and it’s atrocious. We spent 200 days a year outside of cages filming Sharkwater without a problem.

8. How hopeful are you that people will stop killing sharks for their fins?

More than 75% of the people surveyed on the ground in China don’t know that shark fin soup has shark in it because the translation literally means fish wing soup. I believe enough in the compassion of people towards species and future generations of people that awareness will create a huge change.
People can’t see what happens in the oceans, so what is out of sight is out of mind. We waste 54 billion pounds of fish each year while 8 million people die of starvation. 90% of all large predators in the ocean are gone and every fishery will have entirely collapsed by 2048. If the public knew that we depend on the oceans for survival, yet we’re destroying them every day in unprecedented ways, they would take a stand, just as they spoke out for whales and for holes in the ozone layer.

8. Are the sharks still alive when they got cut? And even when they were thrown back into water?

Some sharks are still alive when they are finned. These finned sharks can take days to die when thrown back into the ocean. Finning is a horrible practice that wastes 95% of the animal. It’s like killing an elephant for ivory or a rhino for its horns.

10. If there wouldnt’t be any sharks no more. What kind of consequences would that bring for the oceans?

Sharks sit atop oceanic food chains, controlling the populations of animals below them as they have for over 400 million years. Life on earth depends on life in the sea, which sits below sharks in the food chain. Phytoplankton (tiny plants) are the greatest consumer of carbon dioxide (global warming gas) on earth, turning it into oxygen, providing us with 70% of the oxygen we breathe. Removing sharks is cutting off the head of the most important ecosystem for our own survival. The biggest issue in any global warming debate is life in the oceans that allows life on land to exist, yet it’s never spoken of… all we hear about is industry and carbon footprints.
We know relatively little about the removal of large predators from ecosystems as we’ve traditionally eaten animals at lower levels - the herbivores.
One example is the sea otter, which was hunted virtually to extinction off the west coast of North America for the fur trade. The otter’s food population, sea urchins, exploded in numbers. Those urchins ate all the Pacific kelp (huge seaweed that form an underwater forest). Without the kelp, the Pacific herring (sardine like fish) had no breeding grounds, and without the herring, there were no sharks, sea lions, salmon, tuna, dolphins or whales. The ecosystems collapsed all from removing the sea otter, which as a species has only been shaping ecosystems for 7 million years.
What we’re doing with sharks is removing an animal that has been sitting atop of oceanic ecosystems for over 400 million years, and the ecosystems that will be affected include our own – the very air that we breathe.
So, the worst-case scenario – we cause catastrophic consequences through ecosystems that result in a great number of species’ extinction, including our own.

Best regards,
Rob

13 Responses to “Latest Interview!”

    1. Charlie April 13th, 2008 at 6:02 am

      Superb information Rob, do you mind if i use this source for my school work? I’m sending your information to every student in my school. I’ll help you with all my power, best regards, Charlie.

    1. dare rob April 16th, 2008 at 5:25 pm

      so i think it should be wrong to kill anymals how do nothing ok for the ones that atck peopel but the ones that are inasint is very crlu so STOP KILLING SHARKS THAT ARE INASINT OK PLZ

    1. Serena Smiley April 22nd, 2008 at 3:51 pm

      Hey!!

      I just wanted to say that your movie is great! We watched it in our class and we had a great time. Also, I believe that I will never be afraid of sharks again.

    1. billybobsmacker April 25th, 2008 at 9:50 am

      ok umm thats cool i guess

    1. Carrie M April 28th, 2008 at 8:19 pm

      Rob
      I was touched by the movie.
      i have started a petition and started collecting pledges
      What those bad people did was wrong i was c,lose to crying and puking.
      I’m in grade 8 and i am ready to help the sharks.
      i don’t want to be scared of shakrs they are the most graceful creatures in the sea.
      i am scared but im learning not to be.
      The movie was so touching and im ready to fight for many sharks lives.
      do you have any suggestions to help does anyone?

      Carrie M
      Canada BC

    1. MELISSA April 29th, 2008 at 1:05 pm

      OKAIEE umm, i unnno if this is the right place or w/e but umm
      ive been inlove with sharks my whole life. and everytime i see a shark
      get killed a cry i dont want to sit on my ass and watch them die away,
      i wanna do more then just spred the word i wanna do more then just talk
      i wanna take action. sharks are kind i lvoe em so much and i dont want them to die out
      expechally the great whites if there is trully antthng i can do i know.
      i maybe not be old evough to do much. but i am old enough to know
      its wrong and to do somethnig about it.
      i hope i wrote this at the right place i just dont have much time to search
      throuygh the website anymoire.
      so better safe then sorry. lol.

    1. tianbin huang May 4th, 2008 at 4:30 am

      you people should develop some kind of gene weapon which design specifically aginst chinese people who eat fins.

    1. Jennifer Herrell May 5th, 2008 at 1:07 am

      Dear Rob,
      Finally a modern day hero. I was worried that once we lost Martin Luther King and Ghandi we would be screwed (so to speak)! I have not felt this passionate or fired up since I graduated from university and was willing and wanting to change the world. I am a school teach in my 30’s and spend all my spare time in the ocean with a snorkle and a camera. Tell me please what can I do? Where do I start. I have signed the online petition to stop shark fining, sent e-mails to everyone I know about your movie and had a movie party and invited everyone to view Sharkwater. Now it’s time to get serious and busy. Please point me in the right direction. I am prepared to buy a boat and start beating Costa Ricans, but I foresee you advising me against this! I will start a campaign against eating anything to do with shark fish seafood in general. I do not eat fish or seafood, but only because they swim and poop in the same water and this was always a turn off for me! Seriously, please tell me what one person with connections can do to make a difference. I appreciate what you have dedicated your life to doing for me and our future sharing this planet. You were right when you stated that only individuals and small groups have ever really made change. Never underestimate the power of one voice or the love of one heart. Keep doing what you do. Take care of yourself. You are a rare and special person.
      Sincerely,
      Jennifer Herrell

    1. Brenda Hampson May 18th, 2008 at 2:06 am

      Hi Rob, My heart is crying right now. It tears me apart to see how we devastate the beauty around us for nothing but profit. I am an acupuncturist in Canada and have heard of the ridiculous things the Chinese use for nothing but status. My feeling towards this is… The Chinese are extremely superstitous people, so we could start a rumor to the effect that if you serve shark fin soup at your wedding, it will turn out in disaster such as financial ruin for the family or infertility, or something to that effect. It would get to the heart of the problem and possibly change their minds about shark fin soup, because essentialy it appears that it is simply a status symbol for them.

      Good luck!

      Brenda Hampson

    1. *V* May 20th, 2008 at 11:50 am

      hi! I’m french and I don’t speak very well english !!
      I prefer right and french ! I hope, you understand me

      dear rob this message is for you:

      Charmeur de requins,
      entraînes avec toi dans les profondeurs de l’Océan,
      L’espoir de l’*Amour* Rayonnant…
      Requins, baleines et dauphins, frères aimants de *Terre Mère*
      Dansants au doux murmure de l’*Amour* annonçant une nouvelle ère,
      Répandez et Chantez la Bonne nouvelle d’une Lumière,
      jusqu’alors cachée
      Enivrés et Joyeux de *L*’avoir Retrouvé
      Vibrez et combattez en Unité à *Ses* cotés pour qu’avec vous
      le Tout puisse s’élever !

      voici un message d’amour et d’espoir
      pour le Grand *Frère* des Océans

      Je suis très heureuse de savoir qu’une personne telle que vous existe en ce monde!
      je suis moi-même dans la protection de l’environnement, essayant tant bien que mal de sensibiliser nos générations futur. Je fais parti d’une association qui à pour but de sauvegarder et protéger nos Océans, une association qui s’étend du Brésil en France. Nous nous battons pour faire entendre la *Voix* de la nature, ce qui n’est pas une “simple affaire” face à des organismes de pouvoir et d’argent. Je travaille avec les enfants et essaye de créer des projets de sensibilisation et de découverte de notre *Terre Mère*
      J’espère de tout coeur un jour pouvoir vous rencontrer et ainsi mettre nos missions en commun afin d’apporter à cette planète la Joie de L’Amour Absolu.

      Cordialement *V*

    1. Hannes June 7th, 2008 at 7:42 pm

      Hi i have question what can i do that lives in sweden…..? And what does sweden has for responsibility to save the sharks?, i want to save the sharks but its to far away for me…..!!

    1. Eliane July 17th, 2008 at 3:42 pm

      Hi, this message is for Rob and for all the people that helped him to do this film

      I live in France. I just saw the film and I have to confess that I’m touched… very touched!
      I’ve studied biology to try to do the same thing that you’re doing.. but it’s a big fight and it’s not really easy.. actually I ‘m not working as a biologist … I work in something that helps people to protect the environment… (!!??)
      I just want you to know that what you’re doing is great and that you are big and that you’ll arrive far.. don’t give up!
      I’ll try to diffuse this film to all my friends..

      PS. Sorry about my english..

    1. Heather July 29th, 2008 at 11:02 am

      Hi Rob,

      I heard about your documentary through a co-worker and ordered it on my TV that same evening(yesterday). I previously had huge misconceptions about sharks, but after watching that, my views have changed completely. I have always had a huge interest in the ocean, and ocean life. My Dad’s side of the family is from the Bahamas, and when I went there, we did snorkeling and went down in mini submarines to explore the ocean life. one of the most amazing experiences of my life..I can only imagine how amazing your life experiences have been.. although, I know that some are not great, esecially after watching your film. It saddens me and disgusts me that people could do such horrible things to such a beatiful creature.
      My hometown is VERY close to yours! I am currently working full-time trying to decide on what I want to do. I have gone back and forth with ideas about Nursing, and a few others, but have always had a HUGE interest to do more travelling. I have also gained an interest in marine biology, I’ve had one for some time, but even more so after watching your film. That was always what my Dad wanted to be when he grew up in the Bahamas, but unfortunately he never got the chance to go through with it.
      I am very interested in what you do, and I think you are an amazing person to have made such an effort and now made a dent in history to show people the reality of what is going on in our oceans.
      I am very interested in helping and interested in travelling. Please let me know what I can do to help.
      I look forward to hearing back from you!

      Sincerely,
      Another Canadian Girl,
      Heather

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